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	<title>Comments on: Huffing dong not only won&#8217;t win you the war, but it won&#8217;t even win you the battle.</title>
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		<title>By: Insurgence</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2009/10/23/huffing-dong-not-only-wont-win-you-the-war-but-it-wont-even-win-you-the-battle/#comment-20091</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Insurgence]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hate to join the party so late, but I just finished reading all the comments and wanted to add something to the end of the discussion, where others were taking about women and rape fantasies.

I have been one of those women from a very young age (scary, really), and I hadn&#039;t ever thought about the reasoning behind it until I saw this PostSecret:
http://postsecretarchive.com/2009/09/i-often-have-rape-fantasies-about-the-men-i-like/

&quot;I often have rape fantasies about the men I like. I think it&#039;s because I want someone I secretly care for to want me more than he can stand.&quot;

In other words, due to early patriarchal indoctrination, it is yet another manifestation of women mistaking sex-attention and desire for love.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to join the party so late, but I just finished reading all the comments and wanted to add something to the end of the discussion, where others were taking about women and rape fantasies.</p>
<p>I have been one of those women from a very young age (scary, really), and I hadn&#8217;t ever thought about the reasoning behind it until I saw this PostSecret:<br />
<a href="http://postsecretarchive.com/2009/09/i-often-have-rape-fantasies-about-the-men-i-like/" rel="nofollow">http://postsecretarchive.com/2009/09/i-often-have-rape-fantasies-about-the-men-i-like/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;I often have rape fantasies about the men I like. I think it&#8217;s because I want someone I secretly care for to want me more than he can stand.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, due to early patriarchal indoctrination, it is yet another manifestation of women mistaking sex-attention and desire for love.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You forgot Yog Sothoth tentacle porn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot Yog Sothoth tentacle porn.</p>
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		<title>By: Immir</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2009/10/23/huffing-dong-not-only-wont-win-you-the-war-but-it-wont-even-win-you-the-battle/#comment-14079</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Immir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 01:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, guys get into porn young, then start pushing boundaries as they get older..... Hm. Now I see why there is this &#039;Give the boy his first playboy mag at 10 yrs old&#039; tradition thing that fathers do. They set their little boys on a path to be just like daddy...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, guys get into porn young, then start pushing boundaries as they get older&#8230;.. Hm. Now I see why there is this &#8216;Give the boy his first playboy mag at 10 yrs old&#8217; tradition thing that fathers do. They set their little boys on a path to be just like daddy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: makomk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[makomk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sadinotna: further regulation as a means of reining in the porn industry is probably not a good idea. Witness the consequences of 18 USC 2257, which (although supposedly about keeping under-18s out the porn industry) is effectively a way of making porn production more difficult via regulation.

The end result was predictable. Before 18 USC 2257, anyone with a camera could make and release porn. After it was introduced, amateur porn became logistically impossible - but mainstream pornography companies making mainstream porn could just keep going, albeit with slightly higher costs. This resulted in a strengthening of the porn industry and a reduction in the representation of real sexuality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadinotna: further regulation as a means of reining in the porn industry is probably not a good idea. Witness the consequences of 18 USC 2257, which (although supposedly about keeping under-18s out the porn industry) is effectively a way of making porn production more difficult via regulation.</p>
<p>The end result was predictable. Before 18 USC 2257, anyone with a camera could make and release porn. After it was introduced, amateur porn became logistically impossible &#8211; but mainstream pornography companies making mainstream porn could just keep going, albeit with slightly higher costs. This resulted in a strengthening of the porn industry and a reduction in the representation of real sexuality.</p>
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		<title>By: Amelia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amelia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I enjoy reading your website (and I have subscribed in google reader), thank you ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy reading your website (and I have subscribed in google reader), thank you ;)</p>
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		<title>By: winter_lights</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2009/10/23/huffing-dong-not-only-wont-win-you-the-war-but-it-wont-even-win-you-the-battle/#comment-11671</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[winter_lights]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Comment nesting limit, huh.)

&quot;Even if the first bit of that is true, it absolutely does not necessitate the second bit. Which is vile.&quot;

Not necessitate it, no, but I still think it may be true for the people in some discussions I&#039;ve seen. As long as it&#039;s male on male.

No argument about it being vile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Comment nesting limit, huh.)</p>
<p>&#8220;Even if the first bit of that is true, it absolutely does not necessitate the second bit. Which is vile.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not necessitate it, no, but I still think it may be true for the people in some discussions I&#8217;ve seen. As long as it&#8217;s male on male.</p>
<p>No argument about it being vile.</p>
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		<title>By: hexy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hexy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Whatever it is, a lot of girls are turned on by some sort of rape and the absoluteness of rape always being wrong starts becoming grey.”

Even if the first bit of that is true, it absolutely does not necessitate the second bit. Which is vile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Whatever it is, a lot of girls are turned on by some sort of rape and the absoluteness of rape always being wrong starts becoming grey.”</p>
<p>Even if the first bit of that is true, it absolutely does not necessitate the second bit. Which is vile.</p>
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		<title>By: winter_lights</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[winter_lights]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see hexy kind of beat me to it. Yes, most of the fan fiction that we&#039;re talking about involves men being raped by other men. Amateur fiction involving women being raped usually seems to be written by male authors.

This, though:
&quot;Whatever it is, a lot of girls are turned on by some sort of rape and the absoluteness of rape always being wrong starts becoming grey.&quot;

... I&#039;m not really sure this is wrong. I don&#039;t actually spend time in communities devoted to this stuff, but I see some things in snark communities and other places. And there is sometimes a distinct undercurrent that there&#039;s absolutely nothing wrong with rape as long as it&#039;s two guys who look pretty together doing it. It&#039;s pretty sickening sometimes.

On the &quot;physically possible&quot; thing - I&#039;ll take &quot;absurd, stupid, and hateful&quot; over &quot;instant death&quot; any day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see hexy kind of beat me to it. Yes, most of the fan fiction that we&#8217;re talking about involves men being raped by other men. Amateur fiction involving women being raped usually seems to be written by male authors.</p>
<p>This, though:<br />
&#8220;Whatever it is, a lot of girls are turned on by some sort of rape and the absoluteness of rape always being wrong starts becoming grey.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; I&#8217;m not really sure this is wrong. I don&#8217;t actually spend time in communities devoted to this stuff, but I see some things in snark communities and other places. And there is sometimes a distinct undercurrent that there&#8217;s absolutely nothing wrong with rape as long as it&#8217;s two guys who look pretty together doing it. It&#8217;s pretty sickening sometimes.</p>
<p>On the &#8220;physically possible&#8221; thing &#8211; I&#8217;ll take &#8220;absurd, stupid, and hateful&#8221; over &#8220;instant death&#8221; any day.</p>
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		<title>By: hexy</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2009/10/23/huffing-dong-not-only-wont-win-you-the-war-but-it-wont-even-win-you-the-battle/#comment-11659</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hexy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;ve missed part of the point of fanfic. Violent slash often does not feature a first person perspective, or even a female character.

&lt;I&gt;Do you tell them that they are reinforcing patriarchy, like many sex-workers do? I don’t think you can because these FanFic sites aren’t really analogous to sex work at all.&lt;/I&gt;

I have no idea what you&#039;re even trying to say here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ve missed part of the point of fanfic. Violent slash often does not feature a first person perspective, or even a female character.</p>
<p><i>Do you tell them that they are reinforcing patriarchy, like many sex-workers do? I don’t think you can because these FanFic sites aren’t really analogous to sex work at all.</i></p>
<p>I have no idea what you&#8217;re even trying to say here.</p>
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		<title>By: Nine Deuce</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nine Deuce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No one is turned on by actual rape. The two concepts are mutually exclusive. Anyone who has what people call a &quot;rape fantasy&quot; is not fantasizing about actually being raped, but rather pretending to be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is turned on by actual rape. The two concepts are mutually exclusive. Anyone who has what people call a &#8220;rape fantasy&#8221; is not fantasizing about actually being raped, but rather pretending to be.</p>
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