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		<title>By: GXB</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2009/03/02/i-dont-mean-to-be-a-slagg-ass-shrew-or-anything/#comment-13589</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(only relevant to some comments above)
I&#039;ve always taken curses like &quot;f*** you&quot; literally, even though I sometimes say &quot;f***&quot; myself when suddenly injured.  As a kid, such words grossed me out; as a grown feminist, sexual insults still make me uncomfortable.  Taken at face value, I think the f-word *is* insultingly feminizing, because I think it implies the physical use of a penis in any available orifice and somehow this is supposed to have to do with women (I refuse to understand why).  But people obviously don&#039;t mean the f-word that way, because occasionally I point out to them the literal images that they have conjured up in my mind, and they are more grossed out than I.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(only relevant to some comments above)<br />
I&#8217;ve always taken curses like &#8220;f*** you&#8221; literally, even though I sometimes say &#8220;f***&#8221; myself when suddenly injured.  As a kid, such words grossed me out; as a grown feminist, sexual insults still make me uncomfortable.  Taken at face value, I think the f-word *is* insultingly feminizing, because I think it implies the physical use of a penis in any available orifice and somehow this is supposed to have to do with women (I refuse to understand why).  But people obviously don&#8217;t mean the f-word that way, because occasionally I point out to them the literal images that they have conjured up in my mind, and they are more grossed out than I.</p>
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		<title>By: Imaginary</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Imaginary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As far as I recall I&#039;ve never been raped, but wouldn&#039;t having been raped give some credibility to feminist arguments? It&#039;s strange in a not-so-pleasant way that cocks like this think that having been raped means that you have nothing to add to a discussion of feminism or rape (yes, I have actually had the misfortune to witness the latter).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I recall I&#8217;ve never been raped, but wouldn&#8217;t having been raped give some credibility to feminist arguments? It&#8217;s strange in a not-so-pleasant way that cocks like this think that having been raped means that you have nothing to add to a discussion of feminism or rape (yes, I have actually had the misfortune to witness the latter).</p>
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		<title>By: harmony</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2009/03/02/i-dont-mean-to-be-a-slagg-ass-shrew-or-anything/#comment-7210</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[harmony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you&#039;re right, trinity, not all power dynamics are rooted in patriarchy. 

so forget sexism for a little bit. 

let&#039;s talk about &quot;race play&quot;, a genre of bdsm. it includes fun, playful, sexy, subversive things such as: ruling over black slaves; raping &quot;nigger wenches&quot;; using naturally subservient oriental geishas; beating latina maids for missing a spot when cleaning.

how about power dynamics of age? oh yes, age play. enacting a child molestation, where the adult sub gets to pretend s/he&#039;s in kindergarden getting punished with an ass-fuck by the teacher.

ableism is a nice one too. amputee fetishism is not uncommon amongst doms/sadists. of course it&#039;s healthy and positive to be attracted to an amputee when you see him/her as an equal human being. but doms/sadists turn amputees into a fetish. and it&#039;s their (supposed) helplessness that is fetishized.

and homophobia... wouldn&#039;t it be sexy to role play a couple of straight macho men raping a sissy little &#039;fag&#039; as a punishment for being a queer little panzy-ass?

oh, the fun never ends with bdsm!

but hey, if it gets you off, who is anyone else to judge? i guess we were born that way, born loving oppression. let&#039;s stop fighting to make the world equal... when we watch the autrocities on the news, let&#039;s not get upset and try to change things. let&#039;s just masturbate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re right, trinity, not all power dynamics are rooted in patriarchy. </p>
<p>so forget sexism for a little bit. </p>
<p>let&#8217;s talk about &#8220;race play&#8221;, a genre of bdsm. it includes fun, playful, sexy, subversive things such as: ruling over black slaves; raping &#8220;nigger wenches&#8221;; using naturally subservient oriental geishas; beating latina maids for missing a spot when cleaning.</p>
<p>how about power dynamics of age? oh yes, age play. enacting a child molestation, where the adult sub gets to pretend s/he&#8217;s in kindergarden getting punished with an ass-fuck by the teacher.</p>
<p>ableism is a nice one too. amputee fetishism is not uncommon amongst doms/sadists. of course it&#8217;s healthy and positive to be attracted to an amputee when you see him/her as an equal human being. but doms/sadists turn amputees into a fetish. and it&#8217;s their (supposed) helplessness that is fetishized.</p>
<p>and homophobia&#8230; wouldn&#8217;t it be sexy to role play a couple of straight macho men raping a sissy little &#8216;fag&#8217; as a punishment for being a queer little panzy-ass?</p>
<p>oh, the fun never ends with bdsm!</p>
<p>but hey, if it gets you off, who is anyone else to judge? i guess we were born that way, born loving oppression. let&#8217;s stop fighting to make the world equal&#8230; when we watch the autrocities on the news, let&#8217;s not get upset and try to change things. let&#8217;s just masturbate.</p>
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		<title>By: harmony</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2009/03/02/i-dont-mean-to-be-a-slagg-ass-shrew-or-anything/#comment-7209</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[harmony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[speaking of rape trauma, there is a statistically significant correlation between being a victim of childhood sexual abuse and being sexually aroused by bdsm type fantasies. 

source: 
A path model: The direct and indirect effects of feminist beliefs and childhood sexual abuse on women&#039;s sexual fantasies
by Shulman, Julie Lynn, Ph.D., The University of Memphis, 2003, 89 pages; AAT 3095681

so if anyone&#039;s rape trauma is impacting their opinions...

i&#039;m not pointing this out to be rude, or as any sort of retaliation. i&#039;m pointing this out due to a deep, and genuine concern for those who are re-enacting traumas and blocking their progress of healing, or perhaps even deepening the damage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speaking of rape trauma, there is a statistically significant correlation between being a victim of childhood sexual abuse and being sexually aroused by bdsm type fantasies. </p>
<p>source:<br />
A path model: The direct and indirect effects of feminist beliefs and childhood sexual abuse on women&#8217;s sexual fantasies<br />
by Shulman, Julie Lynn, Ph.D., The University of Memphis, 2003, 89 pages; AAT 3095681</p>
<p>so if anyone&#8217;s rape trauma is impacting their opinions&#8230;</p>
<p>i&#8217;m not pointing this out to be rude, or as any sort of retaliation. i&#8217;m pointing this out due to a deep, and genuine concern for those who are re-enacting traumas and blocking their progress of healing, or perhaps even deepening the damage.</p>
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		<title>By: Polly Styrene</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Polly Styrene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And I haven&#039;t followed the whole thing BUT.

Talking explicitly about one&#039;s sex life (no matter what that sex life is) in the workplace is inappropriate and harassment of one&#039;s co-workers. Merely stating that you are gay/lesbian is not talking explicitly about your sex life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I haven&#8217;t followed the whole thing BUT.</p>
<p>Talking explicitly about one&#8217;s sex life (no matter what that sex life is) in the workplace is inappropriate and harassment of one&#8217;s co-workers. Merely stating that you are gay/lesbian is not talking explicitly about your sex life.</p>
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		<title>By: Polly Styrene</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Polly Styrene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For all those people who are confused about the BDSM/homophobia debate, can I stray off topic slightly and reiterate the difference: 

Being homosexual is not intrinsically harmful. Nailing somone&#039;s penis to a board, as the gay men involved in the celebrated &#039;operation spanner&#039; case did, is intrinsically harmful. 

That is the difference

Furthermore - practising BDSM is not, and never has been illegal in the UK (actual bodily harm IS illegal, but we are always being told that BDSM is just fun that involves tying people up with silk scarves and nobody gets hurt). 

Being a male homosexual, on the contrary was illegal in the UK until the latter half of the twentieth century.

I thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all those people who are confused about the BDSM/homophobia debate, can I stray off topic slightly and reiterate the difference: </p>
<p>Being homosexual is not intrinsically harmful. Nailing somone&#8217;s penis to a board, as the gay men involved in the celebrated &#8216;operation spanner&#8217; case did, is intrinsically harmful. </p>
<p>That is the difference</p>
<p>Furthermore &#8211; practising BDSM is not, and never has been illegal in the UK (actual bodily harm IS illegal, but we are always being told that BDSM is just fun that involves tying people up with silk scarves and nobody gets hurt). </p>
<p>Being a male homosexual, on the contrary was illegal in the UK until the latter half of the twentieth century.</p>
<p>I thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Greenconsciousness</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greenconsciousness]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many &quot;feminists&quot; like the NOW president, think actions against the oppression of Muslim women are racist and to speak about Islam&#039;s Supremacy is xenophobic.  They wont allow such talk on their blogs. They delete the comments of women who support, by attacking patriarchal theocracies, the Muslim women&#039;s liberation movement .  If you do not agree with those women, please  stand in global solidarity with the women who are slaves under Islam and demand that US forein policysupport them in their efforts to gain equality and security.

International Women&#039;s Day Action

Global Gender Caste Action 

Please tell your friends about the petition.
http://www.petitiononline.com/savenow/

To: U.S. Government and United Nations 

We call upon America&#039;s government representatives and the international representatives of the United Nations to recognize the global threat of oppression and violence to women from Islamist supremacism. 

We demand that they pass national and international resolutions condemning Islamic supremacist as a threat to women everywhere. We demand that these world leaders recognize the existence of Islamic supremacism, and we demand that they take measures to protect the women of the world from the Islamic supremacist ideology. 

Women are being oppressed, beaten, murdered in America and around the world in the name of Islamic supremacism. Being &quot;sorry&quot; is not enough. We call upon the leaders of the world to take responsibility to SAVE WOMEN NOW from this cruel, vicious, and deadly ideology of Islamic supremacism. 

Sign Here 
http://www.petitiononline.com/savenow/

Read more about the action involving 2 marches - in London and Wash DC here:

http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/03/04/save-women-now-the-march-8th-washington-dc-rally-means-muslim-women/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many &#8220;feminists&#8221; like the NOW president, think actions against the oppression of Muslim women are racist and to speak about Islam&#8217;s Supremacy is xenophobic.  They wont allow such talk on their blogs. They delete the comments of women who support, by attacking patriarchal theocracies, the Muslim women&#8217;s liberation movement .  If you do not agree with those women, please  stand in global solidarity with the women who are slaves under Islam and demand that US forein policysupport them in their efforts to gain equality and security.</p>
<p>International Women&#8217;s Day Action</p>
<p>Global Gender Caste Action </p>
<p>Please tell your friends about the petition.<br />
<a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/savenow/" rel="nofollow">http://www.petitiononline.com/savenow/</a></p>
<p>To: U.S. Government and United Nations </p>
<p>We call upon America&#8217;s government representatives and the international representatives of the United Nations to recognize the global threat of oppression and violence to women from Islamist supremacism. </p>
<p>We demand that they pass national and international resolutions condemning Islamic supremacist as a threat to women everywhere. We demand that these world leaders recognize the existence of Islamic supremacism, and we demand that they take measures to protect the women of the world from the Islamic supremacist ideology. </p>
<p>Women are being oppressed, beaten, murdered in America and around the world in the name of Islamic supremacism. Being &#8220;sorry&#8221; is not enough. We call upon the leaders of the world to take responsibility to SAVE WOMEN NOW from this cruel, vicious, and deadly ideology of Islamic supremacism. </p>
<p>Sign Here<br />
<a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/savenow/" rel="nofollow">http://www.petitiononline.com/savenow/</a></p>
<p>Read more about the action involving 2 marches &#8211; in London and Wash DC here:</p>
<p><a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/03/04/save-women-now-the-march-8th-washington-dc-rally-means-muslim-women/" rel="nofollow">http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/03/04/save-women-now-the-march-8th-washington-dc-rally-means-muslim-women/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Trinity</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trinity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ND --

Would you like me to send you my undergrad thesis on this stuff? I don&#039;t get why you take such offense to my saying that I believe a body of theory is bad, and argue for my beliefs. It just doesn&#039;t make any sense to me that you&#039;d take that so personally.

I do think it&#039;s bad theory, because I think that the conclusion that BDSM is rooted in patriarchy is wrong. I&#039;ve explained based on experience, I&#039;ve appealed to studies, I&#039;ve offered several possible alternative explanations. You haven&#039;t responded with much, besides the (fair) response that you did more than look on Craigslist. Yet I&#039;m not supposed to say that the theory/strain of feminist thought that leads directly to the kinds of things you&#039;re saying is sloppy and imprecise?

Give me a break.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ND &#8211;</p>
<p>Would you like me to send you my undergrad thesis on this stuff? I don&#8217;t get why you take such offense to my saying that I believe a body of theory is bad, and argue for my beliefs. It just doesn&#8217;t make any sense to me that you&#8217;d take that so personally.</p>
<p>I do think it&#8217;s bad theory, because I think that the conclusion that BDSM is rooted in patriarchy is wrong. I&#8217;ve explained based on experience, I&#8217;ve appealed to studies, I&#8217;ve offered several possible alternative explanations. You haven&#8217;t responded with much, besides the (fair) response that you did more than look on Craigslist. Yet I&#8217;m not supposed to say that the theory/strain of feminist thought that leads directly to the kinds of things you&#8217;re saying is sloppy and imprecise?</p>
<p>Give me a break.</p>
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		<title>By: Nine Deuce</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nine Deuce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and my &quot;theory&quot; isn&#039;t bad. I think it&#039;s perfectly reasonable to say, &quot;You have the right to do this and not get into trouble/be fucked with for it, but I have the right to tell you and everyone else that it&#039;s rooted in patriarchy and oppressive social hierarchies.&quot; Are we in some kind of contest for the people&#039;s minds? If so, don&#039;t let me worry you, because everyone seems to be on the side of sex+violence=super boner these days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and my &#8220;theory&#8221; isn&#8217;t bad. I think it&#8217;s perfectly reasonable to say, &#8220;You have the right to do this and not get into trouble/be fucked with for it, but I have the right to tell you and everyone else that it&#8217;s rooted in patriarchy and oppressive social hierarchies.&#8221; Are we in some kind of contest for the people&#8217;s minds? If so, don&#8217;t let me worry you, because everyone seems to be on the side of sex+violence=super boner these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Nine Deuce</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nine Deuce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You didn&#039;t make the book you were talking about clear. I&#039;ve never read that book, because I don&#039;t have time to read books about anything but what I&#039;m studying in school. As to whether my posts sound like that book, I dunno.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You didn&#8217;t make the book you were talking about clear. I&#8217;ve never read that book, because I don&#8217;t have time to read books about anything but what I&#8217;m studying in school. As to whether my posts sound like that book, I dunno.</p>
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