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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/07/15/i-dont-drink-haterade-man-part-1/#comment-18533</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 04:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pornography Industry Injustices:
-Not all of the reasons are because a porn performers/pornographers are victimized; being a cruel, toxic, person with sociopathic tendencies entering industry to act upon these behaviours with impunity is a huge reason why men make and star in movies like &#039;throat fuckers&#039;(something about this industry attracts personality disorders it&#039;s not hard to see why) In many ways hatred for women is impossible not to see. I won&#039;t go into details but it goes beyond thrusting into orifices with enough force to hurt and calling them degrading names.

-Violent and damaging sex acts which often does internal damage also the possibility of being injured or murdered by your John or pimp or being permanently injured or murdered during a scene (in hardcore)
 
- The fact the humilated and hurt performer/sex worker is simply a dehumanized outlet of sexual sadism/vicarious sexual revenge fantasies, bile fancination and/or to be laughed at

-Misogynistic and Homophobic Propaganda (women/gay men are hypersexual will have sex often rough, painful, degrading anyone anytime and enjoy being abused which encourages misogyny (which effects all women) and dampens empathy (proven)
     
-Knowing your murder will be excused, ignored or you will be blamed or people will believe you deserve it (Hardship Blaming)
-Financial or contractual coercion/manipulation (you signed you have to and/or agreeing to something relatively softcore and ending up with more people and more &#039;extreme&#039; scenes witholding paychecks unless you do).  which will have no recourse due to filming contracts.

-Rape/assualt committed &#039;off duty&#039; by a colleague or stranger due to the unrapeable myth

-Being exposed to STDs including herpes and HIV (incurable) because of low condom rates (it pays higher and is discouraged) and dodgy regulations and enforcement. HIV takes months to detect and people don&#039;t abstain from condomless sex during that time making it meaningless.

-Marginalising curable diseases because they can be cured ignoring the harm they do
     
-Having to Pretend to enjoy the work and lie about their job to keep the porn propaganda, up not doing so means you are out ot the job (I guess free speech only applies those in power)
-Having no control of your image and living with the knowledge it can come back to haunt you having the people you care about see it and ruin future job opportunities

-Having to live with social stigma and discrimination of being a sex worker (ties into the above) people wants it&#039;s porn but don&#039;t care much for the people sacrifice for it

-Erotising things that really shouldn&#039;t like be violent, degrading sex and obsessing over youth. Barely legal girls...aren&#039;t. And other depraved obssesions  
   
-Porn propaganda and popular culture portraying porn amd sex work as something to aspire to it or just seeing it as a safe easy job prospect. Despite the dangers the sex industry (pornography, prostitution and stripping) and the lack of and denial of protection and recourse a sex workers has.

-Porn propaganda glamourises sex work and promises fame and riches that only happen for few. It doesn&#039;t pay well for what women are subjugated to (which isn&#039;t always paid in full) few women much money. 

I hardly covered everything but these people need to be helped not fucked. Do think that victims of circumstances and vulnerable people in society should be helped? Or do you think that access to porn and sex workers is more important than these issues?   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pornography Industry Injustices:<br />
-Not all of the reasons are because a porn performers/pornographers are victimized; being a cruel, toxic, person with sociopathic tendencies entering industry to act upon these behaviours with impunity is a huge reason why men make and star in movies like &#8216;throat fuckers&#8217;(something about this industry attracts personality disorders it&#8217;s not hard to see why) In many ways hatred for women is impossible not to see. I won&#8217;t go into details but it goes beyond thrusting into orifices with enough force to hurt and calling them degrading names.</p>
<p>-Violent and damaging sex acts which often does internal damage also the possibility of being injured or murdered by your John or pimp or being permanently injured or murdered during a scene (in hardcore)<br />
 <br />
- The fact the humilated and hurt performer/sex worker is simply a dehumanized outlet of sexual sadism/vicarious sexual revenge fantasies, bile fancination and/or to be laughed at</p>
<p>-Misogynistic and Homophobic Propaganda (women/gay men are hypersexual will have sex often rough, painful, degrading anyone anytime and enjoy being abused which encourages misogyny (which effects all women) and dampens empathy (proven)<br />
     <br />
-Knowing your murder will be excused, ignored or you will be blamed or people will believe you deserve it (Hardship Blaming)<br />
-Financial or contractual coercion/manipulation (you signed you have to and/or agreeing to something relatively softcore and ending up with more people and more &#8216;extreme&#8217; scenes witholding paychecks unless you do).  which will have no recourse due to filming contracts.</p>
<p>-Rape/assualt committed &#8216;off duty&#8217; by a colleague or stranger due to the unrapeable myth</p>
<p>-Being exposed to STDs including herpes and HIV (incurable) because of low condom rates (it pays higher and is discouraged) and dodgy regulations and enforcement. HIV takes months to detect and people don&#8217;t abstain from condomless sex during that time making it meaningless.</p>
<p>-Marginalising curable diseases because they can be cured ignoring the harm they do<br />
     <br />
-Having to Pretend to enjoy the work and lie about their job to keep the porn propaganda, up not doing so means you are out ot the job (I guess free speech only applies those in power)<br />
-Having no control of your image and living with the knowledge it can come back to haunt you having the people you care about see it and ruin future job opportunities</p>
<p>-Having to live with social stigma and discrimination of being a sex worker (ties into the above) people wants it&#8217;s porn but don&#8217;t care much for the people sacrifice for it</p>
<p>-Erotising things that really shouldn&#8217;t like be violent, degrading sex and obsessing over youth. Barely legal girls&#8230;aren&#8217;t. And other depraved obssesions  <br />
   <br />
-Porn propaganda and popular culture portraying porn amd sex work as something to aspire to it or just seeing it as a safe easy job prospect. Despite the dangers the sex industry (pornography, prostitution and stripping) and the lack of and denial of protection and recourse a sex workers has.</p>
<p>-Porn propaganda glamourises sex work and promises fame and riches that only happen for few. It doesn&#8217;t pay well for what women are subjugated to (which isn&#8217;t always paid in full) few women much money. </p>
<p>I hardly covered everything but these people need to be helped not fucked. Do think that victims of circumstances and vulnerable people in society should be helped? Or do you think that access to porn and sex workers is more important than these issues?   </p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/07/15/i-dont-drink-haterade-man-part-1/#comment-18532</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 04:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Considering the porn industry is not properly regulated economically and ethically its rife with corruption (just coz the test says a performer is clean does make it so assuming it&#039;s even checked). But on a indiviual basis there are many factors that influence and affect women and men who &#039;choose&#039; porn industry (while the effects remain on forced prostituition this refers to those &#039;choose&#039; to work in the sex industry.) While the reasons vary from person to person it&#039;s part of a wider culture of injustice. These things often happen before, during and after an individuals experience in the industry   worsening problems the individual had and often creating new ones along the way.   

Reasons and effects for entering the sex industry (pornography, prositiution and stripping) and societal factors:
-Prior Abuse and assualt and abuse, harrasment, assualt while working (physical, emotional, sexual etc.) 
-Having/sustaining phychological disorders    
-Poor emotional/mental health
-Injury and disease (umtreated) sustained from sex work (Internal damage from violent sex is abhorrent)
-Substance Dependancy and Drug access (as stated earlier)  
-Emotionally fragility and Naivete (easily led and preyed upon)
-Shame, humilation and social stigma (sex workers viewed as sub human and &#039;once a whore always a whore&#039; discourse
-Criminal record for prostituition and mistreatment from police 
-Poor education (lack of knowledge and life skills)
-Lack or job skills/availability   
-Distorted views on sexuality and sex work  
-Lack of sex education      
-Financial &amp; social destitution (no money no where to turn but the industry or the streets) 
-Lack self worth and despondancy (cease to care about your wellbeing)
-Self hatred and self imposed punishments
-Coercion/manipulation from partners, family (the cycle of poverty is usually to blame for this) &#039;friends&#039; or people in the industry
-Being at risk for rape and assualt (also applies to gay porn performers for homophobic reasons regardless of sexuality)    
-The normalization of porn culture
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the porn industry is not properly regulated economically and ethically its rife with corruption (just coz the test says a performer is clean does make it so assuming it&#8217;s even checked). But on a indiviual basis there are many factors that influence and affect women and men who &#8216;choose&#8217; porn industry (while the effects remain on forced prostituition this refers to those &#8216;choose&#8217; to work in the sex industry.) While the reasons vary from person to person it&#8217;s part of a wider culture of injustice. These things often happen before, during and after an individuals experience in the industry   worsening problems the individual had and often creating new ones along the way.   </p>
<p>Reasons and effects for entering the sex industry (pornography, prositiution and stripping) and societal factors:<br />
-Prior Abuse and assualt and abuse, harrasment, assualt while working (physical, emotional, sexual etc.) <br />
-Having/sustaining phychological disorders    <br />
-Poor emotional/mental health<br />
-Injury and disease (umtreated) sustained from sex work (Internal damage from violent sex is abhorrent)<br />
-Substance Dependancy and Drug access (as stated earlier)  <br />
-Emotionally fragility and Naivete (easily led and preyed upon)<br />
-Shame, humilation and social stigma (sex workers viewed as sub human and &#8216;once a whore always a whore&#8217; discourse<br />
-Criminal record for prostituition and mistreatment from police <br />
-Poor education (lack of knowledge and life skills)<br />
-Lack or job skills/availability   <br />
-Distorted views on sexuality and sex work  <br />
-Lack of sex education      <br />
-Financial &amp; social destitution (no money no where to turn but the industry or the streets) <br />
-Lack self worth and despondancy (cease to care about your wellbeing)<br />
-Self hatred and self imposed punishments<br />
-Coercion/manipulation from partners, family (the cycle of poverty is usually to blame for this) &#8216;friends&#8217; or people in the industry<br />
-Being at risk for rape and assualt (also applies to gay porn performers for homophobic reasons regardless of sexuality)    <br />
-The normalization of porn culture<br />
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/07/15/i-dont-drink-haterade-man-part-1/#comment-18531</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 04:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s also funny when one woman from the sex industry says she is/was exploited and it&#039;s the industry is corrupt, sex pozzies scream &#039;it&#039;s not all like that&#039; or &#039;or she&#039;s not credible&#039;. Way to go supporting fellow women, when they says it&#039;s a rarity in the industry (oh please) which admits it happens but denies the scale or just claim (tacitly and explictly) that she&#039;s a lying crazy tramp and antiporn feminists are supposed to be the slut shamers. They want their porn &amp; their orgasm &amp; to feel good about themselves &amp; their theories &amp; and the social acceptance of others (wow they do seem to be gaining alot by ignoring these women who&#039;ve been harmed) but the don&#039;t want to admit that perhaps the women and men they see on screen aren&#039;t really enjoying themselves that&#039;d ruin the porn party.   

The sex industry is fucked up on several levels and it&#039;s widespread all over the globe. The sex industry in most first world countries is largely unregulated  cruel and corrupt. What people fail to realise it that glamorous lifestyle of the highend where women choose to do sex work is the extremely lucky minority but even then there&#039;s still drugs and abuse. The sex industry only portrays glamour and freedom to give the illusion that it&#039;s the majority, which is good for business. If that was the case why would any woman on the street corner just apply at the highend brothels to start with? They end up on the street because they aren&#039;t affluent and/or from &#039;good homes&#039; to begin with.  If they did apply I doubt they&#039;d get a foot in the door. They deppressingly are the unrepresented majority.    

Drugs and alcoholism is rampant within the industry and many workers depend on the industry for to support their addiction or even the root of their addiction. They often provide drugs to lure and keep them dependant or they turn to drugs as a coping mechanism. They often being drunk or high porn at pornsets and performing in videos (meaningful consent is gone).  Noone cares if you are on drugs at work as long as you don&#039;t impede the filming or get them in trouble. Pointing out that other industries and other people do it doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s ok or lesser it&#039;s stating a fact. Drug and alcohol abuse is widespread and impacts on many people and society the porn/sex industry being a (disproportionate) demographic affected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also funny when one woman from the sex industry says she is/was exploited and it&#8217;s the industry is corrupt, sex pozzies scream &#8216;it&#8217;s not all like that&#8217; or &#8216;or she&#8217;s not credible&#8217;. Way to go supporting fellow women, when they says it&#8217;s a rarity in the industry (oh please) which admits it happens but denies the scale or just claim (tacitly and explictly) that she&#8217;s a lying crazy tramp and antiporn feminists are supposed to be the slut shamers. They want their porn &amp; their orgasm &amp; to feel good about themselves &amp; their theories &amp; and the social acceptance of others (wow they do seem to be gaining alot by ignoring these women who&#8217;ve been harmed) but the don&#8217;t want to admit that perhaps the women and men they see on screen aren&#8217;t really enjoying themselves that&#8217;d ruin the porn party.   </p>
<p>The sex industry is fucked up on several levels and it&#8217;s widespread all over the globe. The sex industry in most first world countries is largely unregulated  cruel and corrupt. What people fail to realise it that glamorous lifestyle of the highend where women choose to do sex work is the extremely lucky minority but even then there&#8217;s still drugs and abuse. The sex industry only portrays glamour and freedom to give the illusion that it&#8217;s the majority, which is good for business. If that was the case why would any woman on the street corner just apply at the highend brothels to start with? They end up on the street because they aren&#8217;t affluent and/or from &#8216;good homes&#8217; to begin with.  If they did apply I doubt they&#8217;d get a foot in the door. They deppressingly are the unrepresented majority.    </p>
<p>Drugs and alcoholism is rampant within the industry and many workers depend on the industry for to support their addiction or even the root of their addiction. They often provide drugs to lure and keep them dependant or they turn to drugs as a coping mechanism. They often being drunk or high porn at pornsets and performing in videos (meaningful consent is gone).  Noone cares if you are on drugs at work as long as you don&#8217;t impede the filming or get them in trouble. Pointing out that other industries and other people do it doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s ok or lesser it&#8217;s stating a fact. Drug and alcohol abuse is widespread and impacts on many people and society the porn/sex industry being a (disproportionate) demographic affected.</p>
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		<title>By: Immir</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/07/15/i-dont-drink-haterade-man-part-1/#comment-14377</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Immir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s funny how people will take your anti-porn statements and say &quot;But that is just your opinion, you don&#039;t speak for all sex-workers..&quot;, but when ONE woman comes out &amp; says &quot;I like being a porn actress&quot; then all of a sudden HER word is gospel and she speaks for all women in porn. 

People just agree with whatever supports their point of veiw.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how people will take your anti-porn statements and say &#8220;But that is just your opinion, you don&#8217;t speak for all sex-workers..&#8221;, but when ONE woman comes out &amp; says &#8220;I like being a porn actress&#8221; then all of a sudden HER word is gospel and she speaks for all women in porn. </p>
<p>People just agree with whatever supports their point of veiw.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachael</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/07/15/i-dont-drink-haterade-man-part-1/#comment-3720</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ideally, you only go to war if you &lt;i&gt;absolutely have to&lt;/i&gt;, and only do the absolute minimum damage.  So essentially, it&#039;s not &quot;You can go to war as long as you do it nicely,&quot; but &quot;You can go to war only if you have no other recourse, and you must do it as nicely as possible.&quot;  Armies would only attack military bases and each other.  Sadly, it&#039;s an ideal that no major conflict has reached--even if we &lt;i&gt;had&lt;/i&gt; to go into WWII, we did some pretty awful things that would certainly go against the &quot;rules of war.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ideally, you only go to war if you <i>absolutely have to</i>, and only do the absolute minimum damage.  So essentially, it&#8217;s not &#8220;You can go to war as long as you do it nicely,&#8221; but &#8220;You can go to war only if you have no other recourse, and you must do it as nicely as possible.&#8221;  Armies would only attack military bases and each other.  Sadly, it&#8217;s an ideal that no major conflict has reached&#8211;even if we <i>had</i> to go into WWII, we did some pretty awful things that would certainly go against the &#8220;rules of war.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: isme</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/07/15/i-dont-drink-haterade-man-part-1/#comment-3708</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[isme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always found the idea of rules of war rather odd.  I mean, you&#039;re allowed to invade someone else&#039;s country, bomb their cities, destroy their infrastructure, seize their resources and kill their people...as long as you do it nicely?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always found the idea of rules of war rather odd.  I mean, you&#8217;re allowed to invade someone else&#8217;s country, bomb their cities, destroy their infrastructure, seize their resources and kill their people&#8230;as long as you do it nicely?</p>
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		<title>By: Rachael</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/07/15/i-dont-drink-haterade-man-part-1/#comment-3705</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you mentioned war, an interesting thought came to me.

Some pacifists--such as myself--believe that going to war can be justifiable in some &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; rare cases, such as to defend one&#039;s own country (Gee, it&#039;s been a while since we&#039;ve had one of those, hasn&#039;t it?).  I also believe that certain regulations must be followed in any war--no torture, no killing of civilians, etc.  That doesn&#039;t mean that going to war is in itself a pacifist act.  In fact, war is inherently &lt;i&gt;violent&lt;/i&gt;.  No matter how one tries to glorify it, war is violent, ugly, and terrifying, and the fact that some big corporations profit from it makes it even worse.

This is a great post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you mentioned war, an interesting thought came to me.</p>
<p>Some pacifists&#8211;such as myself&#8211;believe that going to war can be justifiable in some <i>very</i> rare cases, such as to defend one&#8217;s own country (Gee, it&#8217;s been a while since we&#8217;ve had one of those, hasn&#8217;t it?).  I also believe that certain regulations must be followed in any war&#8211;no torture, no killing of civilians, etc.  That doesn&#8217;t mean that going to war is in itself a pacifist act.  In fact, war is inherently <i>violent</i>.  No matter how one tries to glorify it, war is violent, ugly, and terrifying, and the fact that some big corporations profit from it makes it even worse.</p>
<p>This is a great post.</p>
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		<title>By: Friction - Links of the Week: July 13-19, 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Friction - Links of the Week: July 13-19, 2008]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I don’t drink Haterade, man. (Part 1) « Rage Against the Man-chine A radical feminist defends her views against the &#8220;sex positive&#8221; set. Thank you! Now I will sit back and enjoy the show. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I don’t drink Haterade, man. (Part 1) « Rage Against the Man-chine A radical feminist defends her views against the &#8220;sex positive&#8221; set. Thank you! Now I will sit back and enjoy the show. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pisaquaririse</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/07/15/i-dont-drink-haterade-man-part-1/#comment-2289</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pisaquaririse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ohh ffs people!

My breasts should elicit no more arousal than my elbow!  My vulva no more than my cuticles!  My bum no more than my ears!

It is fetishization that does that, plain and simple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohh ffs people!</p>
<p>My breasts should elicit no more arousal than my elbow!  My vulva no more than my cuticles!  My bum no more than my ears!</p>
<p>It is fetishization that does that, plain and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Nine Deuce</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/07/15/i-dont-drink-haterade-man-part-1/#comment-2286</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nine Deuce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back at you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back at you.</p>
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