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	<title>Comments on: MTV: Sex, Drugs, and (almost no) Rock and Roll&#8230; FOR KIDS! (Part 1)</title>
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		<title>By: skeptifem</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/06/19/mtv-sex-drugs-and-almost-no-rock-and-roll-for-kids-part-1/#comment-16600</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[skeptifem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 18:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding the seemingly real feelings they develop- its a well known phenomenon in psychology that people often do what they feel they should be doing when surveillance is imposed on them. You know those entertainment hypnosis shows where people are made to act like assholes on a stage under the guise of being hypnotized? That is why those things work- most people aren&#039;t hypnotized, but they think they are or should be, and that the audience is expecting them to act like they are, so they do. On reality shows what people feel immense pressure to do is be entertaining, which usually means acting dramatic or crazy or weird, and the booze helps out a lot. 

I post about charlie brooker&#039;s series on television a lot, but it is invaluable in understanding how shitty things actually are and it is HILARIOUS. He does a specific episode about reality tv but I am having a hard time finding it. Enjoy this segment on advertising:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWXKHGolqrU&amp;feature=related

The whole series is on youtube for free because bbc doesn&#039;t seem to give a shit if we rip off their programs in the us. Enjoy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the seemingly real feelings they develop- its a well known phenomenon in psychology that people often do what they feel they should be doing when surveillance is imposed on them. You know those entertainment hypnosis shows where people are made to act like assholes on a stage under the guise of being hypnotized? That is why those things work- most people aren&#8217;t hypnotized, but they think they are or should be, and that the audience is expecting them to act like they are, so they do. On reality shows what people feel immense pressure to do is be entertaining, which usually means acting dramatic or crazy or weird, and the booze helps out a lot. </p>
<p>I post about charlie brooker&#8217;s series on television a lot, but it is invaluable in understanding how shitty things actually are and it is HILARIOUS. He does a specific episode about reality tv but I am having a hard time finding it. Enjoy this segment on advertising:</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/06/19/mtv-sex-drugs-and-almost-no-rock-and-roll-for-kids-part-1/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/qWXKHGolqrU/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p>The whole series is on youtube for free because bbc doesn&#8217;t seem to give a shit if we rip off their programs in the us. Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: BassyFacey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BassyFacey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know what makes me laugh a load? The fact that now you can&#039;t even be open about being bisexual without somebody screeching that you&#039;re faking it; or that you&#039;re not old enough and don&#039;t &#039;understand&#039; your sexuality. 

Another thing that gets me, is how if you&#039;re bisexual girls seem to see you as a slut/pervert. Or at least, they do where I live. I told, maybe, two of my closest and most trusted male friends that I was bisexual, BEFORE my close female friends, and they went totally and utterly batshit insane. 

The two guys reacted by telling me I was brave for coming out, and that I probably have more confidence with girls than they ever will. The girls responded with a short &#039;oh&#039; and a nervous giggle. See the difference?

If you&#039;re actually bisexual, you get your sexuality questioned due to the inordinate amount of &#039;fakers&#039;.

Equally, most of the guys haven&#039;t been to plesant about it. I&#039;m still in a same-sex school right now, and we have to go down to the boys&#039; campus to do art and graphics. We also spend our break there. It&#039;s utterly shit to have people screaming &#039;OI LESBIAN, LESBIAN, GET YOUR TITS OUT FOR US&#039; and &#039;HEY, YOU, WANNA THREESOME WITH ME AND MY GIRL&#039;. 

Sometimes I utterly give up on humanity. 

Girls think I&#039;m a whore and a faker. Guys see me as nothing more than some exotic sexual beast; ready to fuc anything that moves. I&#039;m not tarring everyone with the same brush; but isn&#039;t it time we just accept people on who they are, in terms of personality? 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what makes me laugh a load? The fact that now you can&#8217;t even be open about being bisexual without somebody screeching that you&#8217;re faking it; or that you&#8217;re not old enough and don&#8217;t &#8216;understand&#8217; your sexuality. </p>
<p>Another thing that gets me, is how if you&#8217;re bisexual girls seem to see you as a slut/pervert. Or at least, they do where I live. I told, maybe, two of my closest and most trusted male friends that I was bisexual, BEFORE my close female friends, and they went totally and utterly batshit insane. </p>
<p>The two guys reacted by telling me I was brave for coming out, and that I probably have more confidence with girls than they ever will. The girls responded with a short &#8216;oh&#8217; and a nervous giggle. See the difference?</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re actually bisexual, you get your sexuality questioned due to the inordinate amount of &#8216;fakers&#8217;.</p>
<p>Equally, most of the guys haven&#8217;t been to plesant about it. I&#8217;m still in a same-sex school right now, and we have to go down to the boys&#8217; campus to do art and graphics. We also spend our break there. It&#8217;s utterly shit to have people screaming &#8216;OI LESBIAN, LESBIAN, GET YOUR TITS OUT FOR US&#8217; and &#8216;HEY, YOU, WANNA THREESOME WITH ME AND MY GIRL&#8217;. </p>
<p>Sometimes I utterly give up on humanity. </p>
<p>Girls think I&#8217;m a whore and a faker. Guys see me as nothing more than some exotic sexual beast; ready to fuc anything that moves. I&#8217;m not tarring everyone with the same brush; but isn&#8217;t it time we just accept people on who they are, in terms of personality? </p>
<p>RANT OVER.</p>
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		<title>By: munkie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[munkie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dani was very sweet and ever so achingly genuine, despite her surroundings.  I wanted to rescue her from that insanity before she got her heart broken.  You know, point her in the direction of a motherly, lesbian feminist.  I&#039;m not at all surprised that she wasn&#039;t the &quot;winner,&quot; and that there was a second season.

Honestly, I was oblivious to the performance of bisexuality.  As I was coming out, I kept reading about bi-phobia and the marginalization of bisexuals and transgender folks within the IQTBLG community.  I was trying to think of an instance of performed bisexuality and couldn&#039;t come up with anything (not being familiar with porn).  And lo and behold:  Tila Tequila gets a show.  I see.  

Why on earth would people pretend to be queer--something that I&#039;d been trying NOT to be since I was six?  (don&#039;t worry, I&#039;ve since dealt with the majority of my internalized homophobia)  Do hetero women so desperately need sexual validation from men?  I thought, that&#039;s really sad.  

BI/PANSEXUAL RANT:
Now it just pisses me off.  So, awesome-- check it out:  prejudiced straights hate us once they realize we&#039;re not just making up our attraction to the same gender, and prejudiced queers hate cause we&#039;ve got &#039;teh heterosexual privileges&#039; (And we&#039;re lovin&#039; it, right!?? - -Hmm, nope, not so much.  Bi Invisibility is a damning closet I only visit when in hostile Bible-belt range).  

Both groups think bi&#039;s are flakes since we&#039;re just faking it, like Tequila&#039;s straight girlfriends (and that stupid comic-strip is the perfect example of bi-prejudice).  Some queer people think its easier to make a pit stop at bisexuality on the way to fully coming out as lesbian/gay.  This means, I too must be confused or in denial of my lesbianism...I just need to sleep around a bit, then I&#039;ll figure it out!  Honestly, I would love to &quot;just&quot; be a lesbian.  But life ain&#039;t tidy like that (also for this reason,  I unfortunately cannot be a Fundamentalist Christian.  It&#039;s so much easier not to think).  My world isn&#039;t about &quot;Either/Or&quot;--it&#039;s about appreciating people all along the gender spectrum and especially those outliers who plot themselves on other planes.

Tila Tequila and Co. have co-opted my sexual orientation.  But that&#039;s probably for the better, since the concept of bisexuality implies that gender is binary.  Too bad, pan-sexuality makes it sound like I wanna hump everything, including the living room couch.  (Although, if you could see those sexy cushions, mmm, baby...)  That&#039;s why I don&#039;t call myself bi/pansexual; instead, I say I&#039;m Queer. 

(My sincerest apologies for all the punctuation.).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dani was very sweet and ever so achingly genuine, despite her surroundings.  I wanted to rescue her from that insanity before she got her heart broken.  You know, point her in the direction of a motherly, lesbian feminist.  I&#8217;m not at all surprised that she wasn&#8217;t the &#8220;winner,&#8221; and that there was a second season.</p>
<p>Honestly, I was oblivious to the performance of bisexuality.  As I was coming out, I kept reading about bi-phobia and the marginalization of bisexuals and transgender folks within the IQTBLG community.  I was trying to think of an instance of performed bisexuality and couldn&#8217;t come up with anything (not being familiar with porn).  And lo and behold:  Tila Tequila gets a show.  I see.  </p>
<p>Why on earth would people pretend to be queer&#8211;something that I&#8217;d been trying NOT to be since I was six?  (don&#8217;t worry, I&#8217;ve since dealt with the majority of my internalized homophobia)  Do hetero women so desperately need sexual validation from men?  I thought, that&#8217;s really sad.  </p>
<p>BI/PANSEXUAL RANT:<br />
Now it just pisses me off.  So, awesome&#8211; check it out:  prejudiced straights hate us once they realize we&#8217;re not just making up our attraction to the same gender, and prejudiced queers hate cause we&#8217;ve got &#8216;teh heterosexual privileges&#8217; (And we&#8217;re lovin&#8217; it, right!?? &#8211; -Hmm, nope, not so much.  Bi Invisibility is a damning closet I only visit when in hostile Bible-belt range).  </p>
<p>Both groups think bi&#8217;s are flakes since we&#8217;re just faking it, like Tequila&#8217;s straight girlfriends (and that stupid comic-strip is the perfect example of bi-prejudice).  Some queer people think its easier to make a pit stop at bisexuality on the way to fully coming out as lesbian/gay.  This means, I too must be confused or in denial of my lesbianism&#8230;I just need to sleep around a bit, then I&#8217;ll figure it out!  Honestly, I would love to &#8220;just&#8221; be a lesbian.  But life ain&#8217;t tidy like that (also for this reason,  I unfortunately cannot be a Fundamentalist Christian.  It&#8217;s so much easier not to think).  My world isn&#8217;t about &#8220;Either/Or&#8221;&#8211;it&#8217;s about appreciating people all along the gender spectrum and especially those outliers who plot themselves on other planes.</p>
<p>Tila Tequila and Co. have co-opted my sexual orientation.  But that&#8217;s probably for the better, since the concept of bisexuality implies that gender is binary.  Too bad, pan-sexuality makes it sound like I wanna hump everything, including the living room couch.  (Although, if you could see those sexy cushions, mmm, baby&#8230;)  That&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t call myself bi/pansexual; instead, I say I&#8217;m Queer. </p>
<p>(My sincerest apologies for all the punctuation.).</p>
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		<title>By: Nine Deuce</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nine Deuce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I stopped watching MTV sometime in the mid-90s and didn&#039;t start again until about 6 months ago, so I missed that one. But I truly cannot imagine a feminist cast member on MTV today. I thought the new &lt;em&gt;Real World&lt;/em&gt; would be good because they got a cast that was going to do something besides get drunk and fuck strangers, but it&#039;s turning out to be pretty boring. I suppose the Iraq vet guy is kind of entertaining, what with his writing poems and songs about Iraq (and other things, including wishing he was his girlfriend&#039;s tampon) and his obsession with 9-11. I kind of thought watching MTV for unintentional comedy was passe for awhile because it was too easy, but I&#039;m into it again. Especially&lt;em&gt; From G&#039;s to Gents&lt;/em&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped watching MTV sometime in the mid-90s and didn&#8217;t start again until about 6 months ago, so I missed that one. But I truly cannot imagine a feminist cast member on MTV today. I thought the new <em>Real World</em> would be good because they got a cast that was going to do something besides get drunk and fuck strangers, but it&#8217;s turning out to be pretty boring. I suppose the Iraq vet guy is kind of entertaining, what with his writing poems and songs about Iraq (and other things, including wishing he was his girlfriend&#8217;s tampon) and his obsession with 9-11. I kind of thought watching MTV for unintentional comedy was passe for awhile because it was too easy, but I&#8217;m into it again. Especially<em> From G&#8217;s to Gents</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: kendallmck</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kendallmck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you remember when the Real World was actually cool and had, like, &lt;em&gt;real&lt;/em&gt; people on it?  I remember so, so, so vividly watching the Boston season in middle school.  While Boston was actually right on the edge of when the Real World started to take a turn for the worst, it was still ok.  This was the first year I was allowed to watch MTV, so I had missed out on the previous seasons.  Boston will always hold a special place in my heart because it took my Real World virginity.

Anyway, I remember in the first episode of Boston, where they showed clips of their admission tapes, and there was Montana rubbing lotion on her pasty, thick legs, talking about how she&#039;s a feminist and doesn&#039;t shave her pits.  It was amazing.  Would that EVER fucking fly now?

Seriously, what happened?  It used to be at least tolerable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you remember when the Real World was actually cool and had, like, <em>real</em> people on it?  I remember so, so, so vividly watching the Boston season in middle school.  While Boston was actually right on the edge of when the Real World started to take a turn for the worst, it was still ok.  This was the first year I was allowed to watch MTV, so I had missed out on the previous seasons.  Boston will always hold a special place in my heart because it took my Real World virginity.</p>
<p>Anyway, I remember in the first episode of Boston, where they showed clips of their admission tapes, and there was Montana rubbing lotion on her pasty, thick legs, talking about how she&#8217;s a feminist and doesn&#8217;t shave her pits.  It was amazing.  Would that EVER fucking fly now?</p>
<p>Seriously, what happened?  It used to be at least tolerable.</p>
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		<title>By: RadFemHedonist</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RadFemHedonist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I do let someone know I&#039;m bisexual (mostly trusted teachers and mentors and close friends), they don&#039;t tend to pornify it, but then I don&#039;t fit the image of a conventionally attractive woman (and also I pick my nose in public slightly more often that most other people) so maybe that is why I don&#039;t get that so much in part, but then I haven&#039;t told all the pornsick dudes in my class about it, so who knows how they&#039;d react (they talk about porn in lessons BTW, and one of them makes fun of the pain women experience during childbirth).  A lot of dudes don&#039;t like real lesbianism, not to mention that some of them still treat any bisexuality as just experimentation you engage in to piss off your dad like a good little embodiment of freudianism, which all these dudes know is totally true, they expect lesbians to be really feminine, like two women being sexually interested in each other is a display of concentrated femininity.  I don&#039;t think that having a high sex drive has much to do with it, I do, but I&#039;m solosexual (pornlessly), and will remain so unless I find somebody who I&#039;m 100% sure wants to have sex with me, and who I&#039;m also into.  As for that &quot;I kissed a Girl&quot; song, I like the song musically, but find the lyrics to be sexist and while I think the song operates on a more complicated level than the performative lesbianism one, the attitude of the singer is still objectifying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I do let someone know I&#8217;m bisexual (mostly trusted teachers and mentors and close friends), they don&#8217;t tend to pornify it, but then I don&#8217;t fit the image of a conventionally attractive woman (and also I pick my nose in public slightly more often that most other people) so maybe that is why I don&#8217;t get that so much in part, but then I haven&#8217;t told all the pornsick dudes in my class about it, so who knows how they&#8217;d react (they talk about porn in lessons BTW, and one of them makes fun of the pain women experience during childbirth).  A lot of dudes don&#8217;t like real lesbianism, not to mention that some of them still treat any bisexuality as just experimentation you engage in to piss off your dad like a good little embodiment of freudianism, which all these dudes know is totally true, they expect lesbians to be really feminine, like two women being sexually interested in each other is a display of concentrated femininity.  I don&#8217;t think that having a high sex drive has much to do with it, I do, but I&#8217;m solosexual (pornlessly), and will remain so unless I find somebody who I&#8217;m 100% sure wants to have sex with me, and who I&#8217;m also into.  As for that &#8220;I kissed a Girl&#8221; song, I like the song musically, but find the lyrics to be sexist and while I think the song operates on a more complicated level than the performative lesbianism one, the attitude of the singer is still objectifying.</p>
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		<title>By: Nine Deuce</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nine Deuce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t have to give every woman a pass for her shitty behavior just because I&#039;m a feminist. Tila Tequila is an asshole. She manipulates the people on the show and expects them to remain faithful to her while they know she is having sex with a ton of other people. She&#039;s the most self-centered and narcissistic person I&#039;ve ever seen on TV. 

She&#039;s a problematic role model as well. She thoroughly objectifies herself in pursuit of male attention, she sits as a prime example of the problem of women warping their own sexuality to please men, and she pretends that the whole thing is empowering, that she&#039;s some kind of example that women ought to want to emulate. Too bad only about 1% of the population meets the criteria to be able to do that, and that&#039;s &lt;em&gt;after&lt;/em&gt; tons of plastic surgery. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have to give every woman a pass for her shitty behavior just because I&#8217;m a feminist. Tila Tequila is an asshole. She manipulates the people on the show and expects them to remain faithful to her while they know she is having sex with a ton of other people. She&#8217;s the most self-centered and narcissistic person I&#8217;ve ever seen on TV. </p>
<p>She&#8217;s a problematic role model as well. She thoroughly objectifies herself in pursuit of male attention, she sits as a prime example of the problem of women warping their own sexuality to please men, and she pretends that the whole thing is empowering, that she&#8217;s some kind of example that women ought to want to emulate. Too bad only about 1% of the population meets the criteria to be able to do that, and that&#8217;s <em>after</em> tons of plastic surgery.</p>
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		<title>By: aroundthebend213</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aroundthebend213]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 11:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah, you&#039;re right. I was admitting that I was pissed off by that cartoon and influenced my reaction. Though I still think saying that Tila Tequila is a &quot;filthy animal&quot; and a &quot;sexbot&quot; goes against the stated intentions/plan for this blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, you&#8217;re right. I was admitting that I was pissed off by that cartoon and influenced my reaction. Though I still think saying that Tila Tequila is a &#8220;filthy animal&#8221; and a &#8220;sexbot&#8221; goes against the stated intentions/plan for this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The one chlorophyll linked on June 24.  It&#039;s obviously your fault that someone linked a cartoon in the comments, and it obviously is a reflection of your politics, ND.  *rolls eyes*

I still don&#039;t really get what &quot;femme-hating&quot; means, myself.  And I don&#039;t get why discussing ONE woman who is not truly bisexual but pretending to be bi for money and fame is all of a sudden a decry against ALL bisexual women.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one chlorophyll linked on June 24.  It&#8217;s obviously your fault that someone linked a cartoon in the comments, and it obviously is a reflection of your politics, ND.  *rolls eyes*</p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t really get what &#8220;femme-hating&#8221; means, myself.  And I don&#8217;t get why discussing ONE woman who is not truly bisexual but pretending to be bi for money and fame is all of a sudden a decry against ALL bisexual women.</p>
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		<title>By: aroundthebend213</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aroundthebend213]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the one chlorophyll posted above.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the one chlorophyll posted above.</p>
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