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		<title>By: m Andrea</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/03/11/crybabies-fucking-crybabies/#comment-1748</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was sheer fabulousness.  Oh oh oh, yes it is.  Excellent!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was sheer fabulousness.  Oh oh oh, yes it is.  Excellent!</p>
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		<title>By: Nine Deuce</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/03/11/crybabies-fucking-crybabies/#comment-1668</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nine Deuce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I only did that to keep the suspense going until the final judgment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only did that to keep the suspense going until the final judgment.</p>
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		<title>By: wiggles</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/03/11/crybabies-fucking-crybabies/#comment-1667</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BTW, Nine Deuce, I just noticed the question mark at the end of this post title and I&#039;m afraid I have to disagree with it. Not to tell you how to do your job, because your blog is much more successful than mine was, but I think it should be, &quot;MRAs: A Bunch of Fucking Crybabies&lt;b&gt;!&lt;/b&gt;&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Nine Deuce, I just noticed the question mark at the end of this post title and I&#8217;m afraid I have to disagree with it. Not to tell you how to do your job, because your blog is much more successful than mine was, but I think it should be, &#8220;MRAs: A Bunch of Fucking Crybabies<b>!</b>&#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: wiggles</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/03/11/crybabies-fucking-crybabies/#comment-1664</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 02:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;And don’t forget to watch all those old, white men be reelected in November by the primarily female electorate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah well we tried to put a woman in the Whitehouse, but the media and the DNC couldn&#039;t shove her out of the running fast enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And don’t forget to watch all those old, white men be reelected in November by the primarily female electorate.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah well we tried to put a woman in the Whitehouse, but the media and the DNC couldn&#8217;t shove her out of the running fast enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Feminism is for Everybody: Passionate Politics, by bell hooks &#171; Editorializing the Editors</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/03/11/crybabies-fucking-crybabies/#comment-1656</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Feminism is for Everybody: Passionate Politics, by bell hooks &#171; Editorializing the Editors]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] mass media to portray the movement as anti-male.  It would also have preempted the formation of an anti-feminist men&#8217;s movement.  Often men&#8217;s groups were formed in the wake of contemporary feminism that in no way [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mass media to portray the movement as anti-male.  It would also have preempted the formation of an anti-feminist men&#8217;s movement.  Often men&#8217;s groups were formed in the wake of contemporary feminism that in no way [...]</p>
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		<title>By: syndicalist702</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/03/11/crybabies-fucking-crybabies/#comment-1636</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[abc - I&#039;m reluctant to claim the title &quot;feminist&quot; because there&#039;s too much risk of men like me taking it too far and commandeering the movement. While I &lt;i&gt;definitely support&lt;/i&gt; feminism, I recognize that it definitely isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;my&lt;/i&gt; movement in which to be calling any shots. I refer to myself, very carefully, as a feminist sometimes - but more often than not as a feminist supporter or a pro-feminist male. For me, its about what my attitude is and what I do about it rather than what I call myself, anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>abc &#8211; I&#8217;m reluctant to claim the title &#8220;feminist&#8221; because there&#8217;s too much risk of men like me taking it too far and commandeering the movement. While I <i>definitely support</i> feminism, I recognize that it definitely isn&#8217;t <i>my</i> movement in which to be calling any shots. I refer to myself, very carefully, as a feminist sometimes &#8211; but more often than not as a feminist supporter or a pro-feminist male. For me, its about what my attitude is and what I do about it rather than what I call myself, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Kgun5</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/03/11/crybabies-fucking-crybabies/#comment-1626</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kgun5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Men’s rights in jeopardy in a freakin’ man’s world? Riiiiiiiight.&quot;

Which men do you speak of when you say, &quot;man&#039;s world?&quot;  Is it all men, or just the teeny-tiny percentage of old, white moneybags that control just about everything?  Do you really equate the average man to those who have all the power?  Do you really think that those who DO have the power give a rat&#039;s ass about the common man?  Lastly, who do you think the issues discussed here affect more, the common man, or the moneybags of your &quot;man&#039;s world?&quot;

Divide and conquer...And don&#039;t forget to watch all those old, white men be reelected in November by the primarily female electorate.

If feminism (and MRAs for that matter) could keep their eyes on the ball for more than 15 seconds before their bitterness gets the best of them, they probably could work together and do some good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Men’s rights in jeopardy in a freakin’ man’s world? Riiiiiiiight.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which men do you speak of when you say, &#8220;man&#8217;s world?&#8221;  Is it all men, or just the teeny-tiny percentage of old, white moneybags that control just about everything?  Do you really equate the average man to those who have all the power?  Do you really think that those who DO have the power give a rat&#8217;s ass about the common man?  Lastly, who do you think the issues discussed here affect more, the common man, or the moneybags of your &#8220;man&#8217;s world?&#8221;</p>
<p>Divide and conquer&#8230;And don&#8217;t forget to watch all those old, white men be reelected in November by the primarily female electorate.</p>
<p>If feminism (and MRAs for that matter) could keep their eyes on the ball for more than 15 seconds before their bitterness gets the best of them, they probably could work together and do some good.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/03/11/crybabies-fucking-crybabies/#comment-1619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MRA&#039;s suck.  Just suck.  Men&#039;s rights in jeopardy in a freakin&#039; man&#039;s world?  Riiiiiiiight. 

Abc123 -

I suppose men *could* be feminists, if any were (honestly) so inclined.  I&#039;ve never met one.  Have you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MRA&#8217;s suck.  Just suck.  Men&#8217;s rights in jeopardy in a freakin&#8217; man&#8217;s world?  Riiiiiiiight. </p>
<p>Abc123 -</p>
<p>I suppose men *could* be feminists, if any were (honestly) so inclined.  I&#8217;ve never met one.  Have you?</p>
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		<title>By: Abc123</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/03/11/crybabies-fucking-crybabies/#comment-1543</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abc123]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It’s for feminists, it’s for men who support feminists...&quot;

Men can&#039;t be feminists?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s for feminists, it’s for men who support feminists&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Men can&#8217;t be feminists?</p>
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		<title>By: Nine Deuce</title>
		<link>http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/03/11/crybabies-fucking-crybabies/#comment-1414</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nine Deuce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post is officially closed to MRA commenters. Your arguments are too simple-minded for me to take seriously, and you can&#039;t seem to carry on logical discussions. READ MY COMMENT POLICY. If any of you can see past your anger for long enough to conduct a real discussion, I&#039;ll post your comments, but my blog isn&#039;t your blog. You don&#039;t get to come here and use my readership as an audience for your poorly thought-out, misogynistic nonsense. 

Let me tell you who this blog is for. It&#039;s for feminists, it&#039;s for men who support feminists, and it&#039;s for thoughtful and open-minded people who are interested in learning about women&#039;s perspectives. It is not here for people who mistakenly believe that our society treats women fairly and that feminism is useless and wrong. I am more than willing to discuss men&#039;s issues. I don&#039;t deny that there are men who have suffered misfortunes and been discriminated against in one way or another. What I do deny is that our entire social/legal/political/cultural structure is geared in such a way that men always get the short end of the stick. 

If you want to talk about programs that would allow men to work less and thus play a larger role in their children&#039;s lives, I&#039;m on board. If you want to talk about possible solutions to our rather blunt and failing family laws, then we can do that. If you want to talk about how to deal with cases of sex abuse and domestic violence efficiently, we can also do that. But if you just want to come here and say that feminists are wrong because &quot;men suffer too!&quot; I&#039;m not posting your comments. That is a logically flawed argument. I don&#039;t disagree that there are men who are raped, there are men who are abused, there are men who don&#039;t get treated fairly at times. But that does not mean that feminism doesn&#039;t matter, it does not mean that, because one man suffered a rape, the statistically thousands of women who for every man who gets raped also suffer rape have nothing to complain about. That one woman abuses her husband does not mean that the thousands of women who are abused by their partners have no right to complain. Get it? 

I don&#039;t give a shit if you can provide an example of a time a woman did something shitty. I don&#039;t claim men are all bad and women are all angels, which you&#039;d know if you read my blog without letting your anger overpower your reason. I am here to discuss issues, not whether men or women are better. So if all you have to say is that women suck just as much as men for some reason or other, piss off. That kind of thing is beneath me and my readers. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is officially closed to MRA commenters. Your arguments are too simple-minded for me to take seriously, and you can&#8217;t seem to carry on logical discussions. READ MY COMMENT POLICY. If any of you can see past your anger for long enough to conduct a real discussion, I&#8217;ll post your comments, but my blog isn&#8217;t your blog. You don&#8217;t get to come here and use my readership as an audience for your poorly thought-out, misogynistic nonsense. </p>
<p>Let me tell you who this blog is for. It&#8217;s for feminists, it&#8217;s for men who support feminists, and it&#8217;s for thoughtful and open-minded people who are interested in learning about women&#8217;s perspectives. It is not here for people who mistakenly believe that our society treats women fairly and that feminism is useless and wrong. I am more than willing to discuss men&#8217;s issues. I don&#8217;t deny that there are men who have suffered misfortunes and been discriminated against in one way or another. What I do deny is that our entire social/legal/political/cultural structure is geared in such a way that men always get the short end of the stick. </p>
<p>If you want to talk about programs that would allow men to work less and thus play a larger role in their children&#8217;s lives, I&#8217;m on board. If you want to talk about possible solutions to our rather blunt and failing family laws, then we can do that. If you want to talk about how to deal with cases of sex abuse and domestic violence efficiently, we can also do that. But if you just want to come here and say that feminists are wrong because &#8220;men suffer too!&#8221; I&#8217;m not posting your comments. That is a logically flawed argument. I don&#8217;t disagree that there are men who are raped, there are men who are abused, there are men who don&#8217;t get treated fairly at times. But that does not mean that feminism doesn&#8217;t matter, it does not mean that, because one man suffered a rape, the statistically thousands of women who for every man who gets raped also suffer rape have nothing to complain about. That one woman abuses her husband does not mean that the thousands of women who are abused by their partners have no right to complain. Get it? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t give a shit if you can provide an example of a time a woman did something shitty. I don&#8217;t claim men are all bad and women are all angels, which you&#8217;d know if you read my blog without letting your anger overpower your reason. I am here to discuss issues, not whether men or women are better. So if all you have to say is that women suck just as much as men for some reason or other, piss off. That kind of thing is beneath me and my readers.</p>
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